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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Incognito
Originally by: Bienator II The main question here is: will i be able to take your monocle if i pod you? :)
No, clothing is destroyed when you get podded, but if you had a stack on monocle's in your cargo hold they will drop like normal.
I am sorry but this is really dumb. In my pod I am NAKED, why is my new clothing (which currently costs the same as a frigate ???) destroyed when I am poded. Oh to make me pay more real money to buy more... Not doing this outside test server. I already pay for this game, I am not going to pay extra for new content. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Please take a look at the goods available on Duality. We put some PLEX in the redeeming system to use to test the store and experience the goods.
The free clothing and accessories in the character creator are for choosing your character's default appearance. If you get podded, your new clone will awaken with this outfit. We don't intend to keep offering the full free clothing line each time you step into the character creator. Eventually you will see just the one free set and whatever clothing you have acquired.
One kind of thing that did not make it in to this test build is a re-skin of a current, common ship. It is not enhanced in any way except cosmetic.
I really Really REALLY HATE this idea... its one thing to add extra clothing lines that you pay for (I don't like that either) but to remove the extremely limited choices we have now... atm based on current plex prices and the new currency exchange rate on duality one of the new currency is worth about the same as a t1 frigate. a t1 frigate is about the size of a modern day airliner, assuming they are about equivalent in terms of real terms cost, your asking us to believe that in the future a single skirt costs in the region of $100 million+. This is immersion breaking, as well as being an actual real world rip-off. If you ever want me to actually use Incarna you had better bloody well not expect me to even think about paying extra for it. This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas I have seen you float... Including boot.ini __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Nice post, I'll quote it. We've been doing all this work to put avatars in the game because many many people told us they weren't immersed without an avatar. I just found it strange that this would be considered immersion breaking.
The avatars are not immersion breaking. making us pay RL money for the clothing they wear IS immersion breaking. Also making the avatar appear in station fully clothed the instant we dock every time we dock is INCREDIBLY immersion breaking. if as you say the point of avatars is more immersion then this Fails spectacularly. I have been looking forward to Incarna for some time, and now its actually coming, almost every post and new revelation you bring makes me want it LESS.
Make CQ OPTIONAL on docking (ie we dock as normal then can chose to get out our pods, with decanting video as an option) Don't do stupid RL money microtransactions. Don't remove what limited clothing options we already have so you can make more money. Do allow the manufacture and selling of clothing for isk. Do allow us to quickly change clothes without updating out portrait. Do take the extra time and delay launch if that's what's needed to achieve this.
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer
Originally by: Katrishar Again, I think this system sounds awesome. Quick question though.... When we go down to just having 1 "noob ship" style default outfit after being podded, will there be the other character customization screen outfit choices available for "cheap?" In general will you have cheap and expensive clothes? I vote for this.
Short answer is yes. This first pass is simply a tracer bullet to gauge response. The future vision is that after being podded you will wake up in a clone bay in a medical gown. Then you will get your free orange noobie overalls (or whatever we come up with) but there will be all sorts of inexpensive stuff on offer to change into or maybe you weren't wearing your favorite stuff anyway and you can just put that one.
You mean that when we get poded we get a super advanced Jove tech POD we get for free, and the (admittedly crap) warship we get for free, but we don't get to have any decent clothing unless we pay rl money for it??? __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 18:30:00 -
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At the moment on duality 1 GTC gives 3500 AUR. assuming GTC costs 300mill isk. 1 AUR currently has a cost price of 85,714.29 isk. as most GTC's cost over 300mill the ave AUR cost price in isk will be higher than that. Thus the VERY cheapest items you would be able to buy for AUR would be more than the value of some T1 Frigates. (atm everything is 1 AUR in the Vanity store but its the test server)
The RL $EUR cost per AUR will be $34.99/(2*3500) = just under 0.5cents ($0.005EUR) So they could add 10cents to our bills and give us 20 AUR free every month. however by making AUR only purchasable through plex means you have to by 2 plex or 7000 AUR at once, so its bulk buy or nothing.
Now from an in-game role-play perspective, a Rifter costs about 270k isk.
A Rifter is about the size of a 747-400 jumbo jet, which retail at about $260 Million USD (wiki 2007 price)
so assuming comparable real world costs the USD to ISK exchange rate is of the order of 1000:1.
This means that our characters (immortal pod pilots) which use an inter-galactic currency suited for their needs, would be paying out in the order of 86+ Million of whatever local currency the poor mortals down on the planets below use for currency, for a pair of pants or an eye patch.... and this ISN'T immersion breaking??????? __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.05.27 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Luc
Also, make sure Aurum is low. A piece of clothing should be 10 - 200 Aurum, not 50 million. We're not using Yen in Eve 
WHAT? 1 Aurum equates to 90k~120k ISK at current plex-AUR-ISK exchange rates on duality (see this post for details)
1 isk is the in game equivalent of about 1000 of whatever poor mortals use for cash down on the planets. so 10-200 AUR is 900k~24mill ISK or the equivalent of us paying $900 Million to $24 billion USD, real terms price.... for clothes???? even just in isk your saying clothes should cost the same as a Battle Cruiser?!?
1 AUR is overpriced. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:04:00 -
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I will NEVER pay anything extra other than my subscription for eve. The moment there is something worthwhile, or necessary that has to be brought through AUR... I leave.
If dust doesn't work as a subscription game, then I am ok with that being MT based as long as it doesn't bleed into eve game play.
I expect things like corp/alliance decals on ships to be brought for isk only. I expect the 'free' clothes range to expand (at a lesser rate than non free clothes perhaps), not shrink. And you should never, ever, ever, ever, be able to buy a ship for AUR. The shortcut you announced in the AT panel is not acceptable. The in game player economy is the bedrock of EVE...
Break any one of those and I will be seriously displeased. If I get effected by any I will quit. No amount of advertising will make me change my mind and buy stuff in eve. Advertising in general ****es me off no end. If the reason as has been suggested for the loss of the station hanger is to try to encourage us to by vanity clothes... I want you to get the idea out of your minds because all it does is make me LESS enamoured with buying stuff.
I really really really hate the idea that stuff is available in eve for anything other than isk. I don't care if it is just vanity items, if you can't afford to do everything at once... don't, pick something and do it well, then move on. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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